Tuesday, November 20, 2007

Further Evidence

That John Kerry is an idiot. T. Boone Pickens offered up $1 Million if Kerry is able to prove any of the SwiftBoat Veterans for Truth allegations wrong. Kerry says that he accepts the challenge and is looking forward to proving them wrong. Of course, this is the same guy who said that he would release all of his service records, and still hasn't done so.
At the article linked above, the best line has to be:
Senator Kerry, prove them wrong. I dare you. I don’t have a million dollars to pay you but your honor, if you have any left, ought to be worth that.
If he had any honor that is. The fact that he has to be enticed with a monetary reward says more than anything else about his character, or lack thereof.
The Democrats have been using Swiftboating as a verb to allege false accusations. Maybe they ought to rethink that.

4 comments:

Mark T said...

It's a little more than mere false accusations, though that is certainly part of it. The accusations don't need to be false - it's the manner in which a man or woman is attacked that matters.

It's a fine three-act play that you guys put on - one, you make the accusation, two, you amplify it in your right wing media circus - talk radio and Fox, and three, whoever is accused becomes guilty by having to defend himself. That's how it works in politics - if you have to defend yourself, you're guilty.

It's a whole apparatus designed to destroy people, no doubt concocted by Rove. Surely it is his style - to attack an opponent's strength, to take, say, a paraplegic war veteran named Cleland and accuse him of cowardice. It wasn't known as "Swiftboating" at the time, but that is where the ugly practice originated, and not with the ever-flaccid John Kerry.

Steve said...

What a wonderful comment Mark. I especially liked your part where you say Cleland was accused of cowardice. It is patently false, has been repeated and amplified by the Democratic media, and now Republicans have to defend themselves from something that never occurred.
Cleland was accused of being beholden to the unions during the creation of the Dept of Homeland Security. Not cowardice.
Now, as to Kerry. First, the SOB accused all who served of having committed war crimes. Not that big of a deal right, I mean everyone knows that all Viet Nam vets were and are deranged lunatics, because he said so.
No, the problem with Kerry, is that he sold himself as being a war hero, when he was not. That is grounds to be rebutted, and the Swiftboat Vets did just that.
For Kerry to claim that is all unfair is absolutely absurd. He asked for it, and he got it.

Mark T said...

Absolutely youo're right here - talking about a TV ad pairing him with Osama bin Laden is just unfair criticism - you guys are really just innocent victims!

Cleland was accused of "breaking his oath to protect and defend the Constitution." That's aka treason. Usually triple amputees are given some leeway in the patriotism department, but no so in this case.
Rove at work - attack his strength.

The union issue was merely a ruse used to question Cleland's patriotism - somehow allowing unions at Homeland Security was tantamount to being "soft on terrorism" - that awful phrase that means nothing but sounds awful. That's according to Rove. That's Republican logic 101.

But all that treason and terrorism nonsense is just that - we're hardly threatened at all, but you guys play the fear card with great passion - trying to scare people into voting for you. It worked against Max Cleland, and now you're claiming innocent bystander status to acts by dirty Democrats. This is comical.

Crude smear tactics are merely part of the propaganda game - all political opponents are fair game, anyone who stands in the way is likely to be hit by dirt balls. It's been going on forever, but the Bush's are especially good at it, going all the way back to Willy Horton. It's a Bush game, smear, low and vile practices while saluting the flag and claiming a higher ground. Despicable.

Tangentially related - Georgia 2002 was the first use of Diebold voting machines, and the election outcome surprised everyone, especially the pollsters. It's totally Bushville.

Steve said...

You continue to amaze me Mark! First you say that the Republicans accused Cleland of cowardice, then when it is disproved, you simply ignore your factual misstatement, and switch to a new allegation, that his patriotism was challenged. This type of arguing is similar to many that I have seen from the Left. They are not able to admit mistakes, since winning is the most important thing, not accuracy.

But really Mark, "Usually triple amputees are given some leeway in the patriotism department, but no so in this case." Why should anyone be given a free ride just because they failed to secure the safety pin on their grenade. This is an insult to anyone that has been dismembered, that you would say that they are not to be held to the same standard as everyone else, because they are an amputee. Shae on you, and that is not Rove's fault.
As to the union question being a ruse, maybe in your mind. But it was true that the Democrats had committed to supporting the union being in control of personnel assignments and not the executive branch. Remember, originally, Bush had opposed the creation of the DHS, but under Democratic pressure did go along. He did not however, want to have the arcane civil service rules preventing him from allocating resources and assets as he thought were needed.
again, your fascination with the powers of Rove are somewhat disturbing.
"But all that treason and terrorism nonsense is just that - we're hardly threatened at all,"

Really, I am not sure if you are being naive or just hoping. It's not like we haven't had our interests, our embassies, our troops attacked? Those are all just playing on our fears?
Come on. If you are unable to admit that there is an enemy who wishes us harm, I am not able to understand you nor how you think. Me, I'll concede that our enemy means what he says.

"Crude smear tactics are merely part of the propaganda game - all political opponents are fair game, anyone who stands in the way is likely to be hit by dirt balls. It's been going on forever, but the Bush's are especially good at it, going all the way back to Willy Horton. It's a Bush game, smear, low and vile practices while saluting the flag and claiming a higher ground. Despicable."

What's despicable, is your child like belief that it is all the Republicans who do these things. Remember Willy Horton was first brought up by Gore in the primary. And yes, he was in prison for life, and yes he was released on furlough for a weekend, just long enough to kill that family. But I am sure that it was all Rove's fault.
If you want to say that the Republicans started it, I can't dispute that, because it goes so far back that it is unknown who the original malfeasor was. "Ma, Ma, where's my Pa? Gone to Washington Ha, Ha, Ha."
Don't try to play the innocent aggrieved victim, when Bush is portrayed as having dragged a black man to death behind a pickup, and not one Democrat stood up in opposition.

Mark, I know that you consider yourself and independent, and you may be. Which only goes to show the powerful nature of the Democratic smear machine has such power that they could persuade you that they are the victims, while continuing the very things that you decry.