Monday, July 25, 2011

The Difference Between a Lie and a Mistake

The Left has always said that "Bush lied!" when it came to WMDs in Iraq. I thought that they were just trying to exploit the confused voter for their tactical advantage. But now we have actual lies coming out of the White House and crickets coming from the Leftocracy and blogosphere. From the article:
“I wanted to give you an update on the current situation around the debt ceiling,” Mr. Obama said at 6:06 p.m. OK, that wasn’t a lie — but just about everything he said after it was, and he knows it.

“I just got a call about a half-hour ago from Speaker [John A.] Boehner, who indicated that he was going to be walking away from the negotiations,” he said.

Not so: “The White House made offers during the negotiations,” said our insider, a person intimately involved in the negotiations, “and then backtracked on those offers after they got heat from Democrats on Capitol Hill. The White House, and its steadfast refusal to follow through on its rhetoric in terms of cutting spending and addressing entitlements, is the real reason that debt talks broke down.”

Mr. Boehner was more blunt in his own news conference: “The discussions we’ve had with the White House have broken down for two reasons. First, they insisted on raising taxes. … Secondly, they refused to get serious about cutting spending and making the tough choices that are facing our country on entitlement reform.”

But back to the lying liar and the lies he told Friday. “You had a bipartisan group of senators, including Republicans who are in leadership in the Senate, calling for what effectively was about $2 trillion above the Republican baseline that theyve been working off of. What we said was give us $1.2 trillion in additional revenues,” Mr. Obama said.

That, too, was a lie. “The White House had already agreed to a lower revenue number — to be generated through economic growth and a more efficient tax code — and then it tried to change the terms of the deal after taking heat from Democrats on Capitol Hill,” our insider said.
But Mr. Obama, with a straight face, continued. “We then offered an additional $650 billion in cuts to entitlement programs — Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security.”

The truth: “Actually, the White House was walking back its commitments on entitlement reforms, too. They kept saying they wanted to ‘go big.’ But their actions never matched their rhetoric,” the insider said.

While the article asks if Obama is a pathological liar, I think in fairness to him, that he just doesn't have a clue what the truth looks like. And neither do the Lefties who said that Bush lied.


David said...

I don't know whether Obama was lying or not, but I sure wouldn't take the word of an anonymous "insider" in the Washington Times about it.

Steve said...

Okay, how about in his speech when he said the wealthiest aren't paying anything?

That would be a lie wouldn't it?

David said...

I never heard of a speech where he said any such thing. Was there one?

Steve said...

From last night: The only reason this balanced approach isn’t on its way to becoming law right now is because a significant number of Republicans in Congress are insisting on a cuts-only approach – an approachthat doesn’t ask the wealthiest Americans or biggest corporations to contribute anything at all. And because nothing is asked of those at the top of the income scales, such an approach would close the deficit only with more severe cuts to programs we all care about – cuts that place a greater burden on working families.

Read more at the Washington Examiner:

David said...

It's pretty clear from the transcript that he wasn't saying rich people pay nothing. He was saying that they weren't being asked to sacrifice anything extra to balance the budget, unlike those who depend on government jobs or benefits.

I used to think that you were just being deliberately obtuse when you made these sorts of points, but I'm beginning to suspect I was wrong about that.

Steve said...

Coming from you, the accusation of being obtuse is rife with irony.

When he says "that doesn’t ask the wealthiest Americans or biggest corporations to contribute anything at all." tell me where I am wrong from the words he said, not what you think he said.

Brian H. said...

Crickets, my ass. Left blogs are hammering Obama plenty over many things. Try Wonkette for a start. Frankly, the main thing I get out of your post here is that you think that the Bush administration used no intentional deception to start the Iraq War, and that my friend really wrecks your position.

Steve said...

Another unsophisticated voter heard from.